UPDATE: ABC has seemingly pulled the link to the audio. We’ll keep you updated on this one.
Weird and wild shit goes down all the time in the world of podcasts, but it’s not every day that a piece of audio content produced by Radio National unabashedly fields questionable – if not fully problematic – takes on race.
Beverley Wang’s new podcast It’s Not A Race last night posted an unedited offshoot interview between her and Red Symons, presenter of ABC Melbourne Breakfast. It was bizarre, at best.
When presented with that absolute howler of a title, Wang invited Symons to share his opinion. After saying the question was a “just a useful, general question about the nature of our culture” that could spur discussion, he asked Wang “are you yellow?”
Symonds then asked which of Cantonese or Mandarin they speak in Taiwan – the answer is Taiwanese with a smattering of Mandarin, btw – before Wang retorted “in Canada where I’m from, they speak English and French.”
It spiralled out from there, as Symons asked her if Beverley was really her birth name, and called the Hey Hey incident “alleged” blackface. Again, all of this was pushed through the ABC’s official channels.
You better believe Symons’ backwards BS has been roundly rebuked by damn near everyone who’s had the misfortune of listening to it:
unprepared unfunny unethical interviewer @RedSymons faced with whip smart gracious guest @beverleywang who just wants 2 talk about her show https://t.co/ItTXu2V57t
— Julia Zemiro (@julia_zemiro) June 16, 2017
skipped halfway thru red symons interview to see if it got any better but accidentally hit the exact moment he says ‘alleged blackface’
— Shaad D’Souza (@shaaddsouza) June 16, 2017
Chrissakes. When a leading ABC radio personality asks an Asian colleague “are you yellow?” we have a problem https://t.co/cS2ms3mxLb
— Marc Fennell (@MarcFennell) June 15, 2017
If you happened to walk past my desk last week at @RadioNational and my jaw was scraping on the floor this iv is why https://t.co/9CiRswOvSB
— Jess O’Callaghan (@jessocallaghan) June 15, 2017
still cannot get over the hideous behaviour of Red Symons in this interview with deadset pro and most patient person ever @beverleywang https://t.co/qhkwNGI4WS
— Bec Shaw (@Brocklesnitch) June 16, 2017
Wang herself commented after the interview went live, echoing the sentiment that this kind of shit happens all the time.
He’s right. https://t.co/ya5vYYeODY
— beverley wang (@beverleywang) June 15, 2017
Fortunately, It’s Not A Race is just getting started, so there’s still plenty of time to field guests who aren’t so massively bung.