As a very small percentage of the global population could probably tell you, being friends with a celebrity is hard. So hard, in fact, that Lorde has described her friendship with Taylor Swift as like “having a friend with an autoimmune disease”.

Since most of us will never actually be good mates with a celebrity – and even then, probably not a celeb as famous as a certain T-Swift – let us look to the teachings of Ella Yelich-O’Connor to educate us on what that would look like.

“It’s like having a friend with very specific allergies,” she told The Guardian in a recent interview. “There are certain places you can’t go together. Certain things you can’t do. There are these different sets of considerations within the friendship. It’s like having a friend with an autoimmune disease.”

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The interview was published to coincide with Lorde’s sophomore album ‘Melodrama‘, out last week. Although much of the recent press has focused on Lorde returning to her old life and old friends in New Zealand prior to recording this album, there’s no hiding the fact that since she exploded onto the scene with ‘Royals’ in 2013, she now counts a number of famous friends in her circle.

That includes Lena Dunham (whose partner Jack Antonoff was Lorde’s writing partner for this album, essentially making the three of them part-time roommates), Florence Welch and Tavi Gevinson. Her intimate 20th birthday party last year, thrown by Taylor, was attended by Swift BFF Karlie Kloss and Aziz Ansari.

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In the same interview, Lorde explained that the famous tend to befriend the other famous thanks to their shared + highly unique experience.

“It’s an element of wanting to stick together,” she said. “Because it can be so scary to do this. These friendships, they’re about having a hand put on your shoulder by someone who knows. They’re about hearing, ‘I’ve done it, too’.”

Read the full interview here.

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